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Post by songbreese on Aug 16, 2007 20:17:18 GMT -5
Ok guys. Here it is. The thread you all want but haven't bothered to make. The DH discussion. w00t.
Let me start off the conversation by saying this(feel free to completely ignore it and start your own tangent):
The Epilouge sucked.
Seriously.
It's all fluff that doesn't tell you really anything. Plus I kinda really wanted Harry dead at the end of the book. Do you know how much fanfiction there is out there about Harry Potter in the future? How many bad roleplays going on? How much more fanfiction is being written as we speak? Seriously, why couldn't Jo end it and kill Harry. But no--he lives, AND has 3 children...
ok, I'm done, that was I bit longer than I expected, sorry...
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Post by pythonheart on Aug 17, 2007 18:19:29 GMT -5
the epilouge was good. i wanted a happy ending. and well....there plenty of bad fanfic, but some could be good.
i love jo! but im still pissed about hedwig and dobby.
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Post by songbreese on Aug 17, 2007 19:42:11 GMT -5
Why Hedwig? Why?
I'm upset about Snape and Bella...*tear*. SHE KILLED TWO OF MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS DAMMIT!!1! Not to mention she broke up the dream team of Fred and George Weasly-whom I love too. And TONKS AND LUPIN. OMG. I cried. Not even kidding. Seriously Jo killed every single one of my favorite characters. Except George. It was George that was alive, wasn't it?(I'm too lazy to check right now).
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Post by pythonheart on Aug 17, 2007 20:43:01 GMT -5
and fred!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111 whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?  ? but atleast hagrid survived- for a while there i thought he was the proverbial goner. |
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Post by songbreese on Aug 17, 2007 21:00:47 GMT -5
why?
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Post by pythonheart on Aug 18, 2007 10:55:41 GMT -5
i forgot. i just remember thinking that.
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Post by Circe on Aug 18, 2007 11:49:45 GMT -5
OMG!! i agree w brinae, i hated the ending. i really wanted harry to die!! without him dieing it just leaves it at a sort of cliffhanger. and harrys child...albus severus potter...no one else can ever own up to dumbledore!!! i just cant imagine anyone else being called that!! and do we even kno wat harrys profession is...? i think the only part i liked about the epilouge was that ron said he was famous....
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Post by songbreese on Aug 19, 2007 15:34:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I know, that's what people were saying at camp. It really doesn't tell you anything. Hermione and Ron are married, Harry and Ginny are married. We get the names of the kids. But that's it. We don't know what any of them have done with their lives. Where are they living? Nothing.
And who the hell names their kid Scorpius? That poor child Draco. He'll be picked on to no end.
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Post by pythonheart on Aug 19, 2007 20:45:18 GMT -5
jk rowling said in a few interviews. harry is an auror, i think ron is too, and i think hermoine works in some other part of the ministry. they have changed the ministry though, so its not corrupted anymore and its "a good place to be"(jkr). its nice to know, but i dont think it was necessary for that to be mentioned in the epilouge. and i dont see how it was a cliffhanger- she said that harrys life was quiet and all was well.
so there. thbpp.
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Post by songbreese on Aug 20, 2007 18:51:28 GMT -5
exactly. It said all's going great, therefore, we now want and expect something to happen.
in other news, check this:
sturm und drang
Columbia Encyclopedia:
(shtrm nt dräng) (KEY) or Storm and Stress, movement in German literature that flourished from c.1770 to c.1784. It takes its name from a play by F. M. von Klinger, Wirrwarr; oder, Sturm und Drang (1776). The ideas of Rousseau were a major stimulus of the movement, but it evolved more immediately from the influence of Herder, Lessing, and others. With Sturm und Drang, German authors became cultural leaders of Europe, writing literature that was revolutionary in its stress on subjectivity and on the unease of man in contemporary society. The movement was distinguished also by the intensity with which it developed the theme of youthful genius in rebellion against accepted standards, by its enthusiasm for nature, and by its rejection of the rules of 18th-century neoclassical style. The great figure of the movement was Goethe, who wrote its first major drama, Götz von Berlichingen (1773), and its most sensational and representative novel, The Sorrows of Young Werther (1774). Other writers of importance were Klopstock, J. M. R. Lenz, and Friedrich Müller. The last major figure was Schiller, whose Die Räuber and other early plays were also a prelude to romanticism.
WordWeb online:
A state of violent disturbance and disorder (as in politics or social conditions generally)
m-w.com:
1 : a late 18th century German literary movement characterized by works containing rousing action and high emotionalism that often deal with the individual's revolt against society
2 : TURMOIL
now check this:
sturm und drang
sturm und drang
durm und strang
Durmstrang
That's my little Harry Potter discovery of the month, maybe year-I'll let you know.
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Post by Kayl on Aug 20, 2007 21:03:23 GMT -5
Yes, the epilogue did suck... i was expecting more. YOu know, i thought we'd get to see what happens to all the characters, including Luna and the rest of the Weasley's and stuff. Good news: there's going to be an HP encyclopedia with a lot more discriptions of characters and such.
ON an unrelated note: Did anyone begin to hate Dumbledore for a while. I mean, it seemed like he was leaving Harry to die. (no i didn't want him dead, though i thought he would) I was just so pissed at him. I mean, for a while, all that came out from the book were bad things about him.
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Post by songbreese on Aug 20, 2007 21:07:18 GMT -5
I was surprized, but I didn't hate Dumbledore. It was kinda shocking though...
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Post by Kayl on Aug 20, 2007 22:03:24 GMT -5
well, i didn't start hating him until it seemed he had been planning for Harry to die in the end. Of couse, I loved him again, once he explained himself.
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Post by Circe on Aug 21, 2007 13:54:54 GMT -5
yea i really started hating him for doing that....but i cldnt hate him for long..i mean he decieved everyone so cleverly!!
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Post by twilight_angel on Aug 22, 2007 10:27:59 GMT -5
I wish haryy would have died. It would have been way more interesting. But, harry being half-dead then coming alive again and faking dead was awesome. they all could have died.
b.t.w. I sorta missed you guys while I was at camp for two weeks....if you wanna know how the sorta works ask me in person.
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Post by herm-own-ninny on Aug 22, 2007 14:02:31 GMT -5
I didn't hate the epilogue. Yea, I was expecting more, but still, I thought it was okay. (though, my first impression was it sounded something like a fan fic.)
I was a little mad at dumbles, but not for long. Especially when he explained himself. I loved how she took all the unanswered questions about him that we hadn't even thought of. like how he broke his nose. I didn't think of that one.
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Post by pythonheart on Aug 23, 2007 9:51:58 GMT -5
yeha me too (the nose thing)
and the durmstrang thing......ooh.....thats amazing. i wish i could ask jkr about that now.
well i think she did a good job. i love jkr, though im shunning her till i get over hedwig. and dobby. and fred. *distraught*
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Post by songbreese on Aug 23, 2007 19:20:48 GMT -5
Guess who I'm mourning:
Bellatrix, Snape, The Dark Lord, Fred, Tonks
Harry should've stayed dead, dammit.
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Post by twilight_angel on Aug 23, 2007 19:44:36 GMT -5
I AGREE!!!
who wanted harry to stay dead,
let's count whose said yes...
ok right now 3 for harry being dead and since the other didn't stay die harry, 3 for harry being alive .
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Post by pythonheart on Aug 23, 2007 20:06:51 GMT -5
YOU SHOUDL ALL BE ASHAMED. ;___;
hooreeyy for hp not dying!!!!
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Post by Kayl on Aug 25, 2007 22:40:34 GMT -5
What about Lupin? Why does he get no love? He was one of my favorite teachers, besides McGonnagal.
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Post by herm-own-ninny on Aug 26, 2007 17:07:30 GMT -5
I'm glad that harry didn't die. I don't think she focused enough on lupin and tonk's deaths. They are two of the series most beloved characters (of those that hadn't died already) and all they get is a quick mention that they did indeed die. Fred's death was only slightly better
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Post by songbreese on Aug 26, 2007 21:23:12 GMT -5
Lupin and Tonks. OMG that was horrible. I cried. not kidding. And for Bella and Snape. Those were the only times I cried.
btw, hate to say it but-I told you so!
quote from mugglenet:
"Warner Brothers acknowledged that movie ticket sales for Phoenix actually fell because fans were too busy reading. What a novel idea!"
I was right! Releasing the movie at the same time as the book was a bad idea commercially.
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Post by Kayl on Aug 26, 2007 22:12:32 GMT -5
yes, yes it was, cause the books >>>>>>>>>>>>> the movies.
Tonks and Lupin got gypted. (can't spell) Fred at least got a scene where he died, though it was kind of short felt for the reader. All Lupin and Tonks got were a mention of their names and were put near fred.
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Post by songbreese on Sept 15, 2007 10:21:01 GMT -5
*tear* Severus...
He had a good death scene though...
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Post by songbreese on Sept 20, 2007 5:44:59 GMT -5
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Post by moongirl on Oct 26, 2007 12:54:13 GMT -5
Why! Oh why did Tonks and Lupin have to die! What about their kid!!!!!!!! He will bearly remember them!!  |
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Post by Display name on Oct 26, 2007 17:16:12 GMT -5
thats an easy answer. He will be sent to one of his relatives house and then some years past by and then he is invited to hogworts and then the dark lord comes back and then he would need to go into the chamber of secrets his second year and he would be in the tri-wizerds tournament and history will repeat its self yet again.
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Post by herm-own-ninny on Oct 29, 2007 12:14:14 GMT -5
no he's going to be sent to live with harry (ang ginny*squeal*) 'cause harry is his godfather. in general, you are sent to you godparents house when you parents aren't there.
and maybe you didn't catch it, but teddy also ends up with Victoriare (I think that's fleur and Bill's daughter. It sounds french enough and she's about the right age. )
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Post by songbreese on Nov 12, 2007 6:44:27 GMT -5
hehe, Jo better be careful so she avoids her characters marrying their own relatives...everyone's so close-knit.
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